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Base cost: 200,000 gp

Maintenance cost: 5,000 gp/month (4,250 gp/month if the deed was blessed before placing it on the map. As of version 1.16fix2, blessing does not affect a deed's maintenance cost.)

Income: 10 gp per 15 days per rank plus income from sales.

A shop is a place where you can drop extra inventory to be sold to customers. The primary advantage over selling items to shopkeepers is that the 95% price penalty for selling equipment to shopkeepers doesn't apply to your shop. You must have one of your companions stay at the shop to sell items to customers. The salesperson's success is dependent on their Charisma attribute and Negotiation skill.

It seems that the shop's rank determines the average number of customers that visit per day. Thus a higher rank means that the shop's stock sells faster. Charisma only affects the amount of customers in the store, and Negotiation affects the sale value.

Specific formula is: Sale Value = ((((sqrt(NEG*200))Trunc) * (IV/500)) + (IV/50)) Trunc

Where IV is the Item value (purchase price at 0 NEG), and Trunc is Truncating off decimals.

Note that this formula means that even with a negotiation skill of 1, you get roughly 5% of the store value of an item, which may not be much, but is still leagues better than the 0.5% you get from selling equipment directly to regular shops. If your character has no negotiation, and sells non-equipment goods for only the standard 10%, you make more money selling goods through your shop than directly at a town shop, for any shopkeeper skill level greater than 8 Negotiation. 

Also note that, because of the square root in the formula, the value of high negotiation scores (while always better than not having them) drop precipitously. It takes 8 negotiation to get up to 10% purchase price, 40 to get up to 20% purchase price, and 98 Negotiation to get to 30% purchase price. The maximum value of 50% is reached at 288 negotiation.

As of version 1.57, shops can be specialized to only sell certain goods at a large markup:

  • The goods shop. Default. Works the same as previous versions.
  • The food shop. Will sell only food items. Final selling price has x 2 modifier.
  • The magic shop. Will sell only scrolls, spellbooks, and rods. Final selling price has x 2.5 modifier.
  • The blacksmith. Will sell only equipment. Final selling price has x 1.5 modifier.
  • The inn shop. Will sell only containers and potions. Final selling price has x 3 modifier.

The default shop has a 1/8 chance of cancelling the sale of an item. The food shop and the rest of the new shop types, however, do not have this chance of cancelling sales. Number of items sold are otherwise random.

Assigning a salespersonEdit

Go to the register in the shop. The 'Assign' command will ask you to specify which companion will work at the shop. While that companion is a salesperson, he or she cannot be in your party. Shopkeepers will not sell any ores or other items in their inventories while they are working at the store. If you take a shopkeeper away with you (for training, for example), food items, which normally remain fresh until sold, will begin to rot, as with any food left to sit on the ground anywhere else. When you reach level 60, if you don't have a better shopkeeper it's recommended you buy a Master thief. A lower-level alternative that you can purchase from the slave trader would be the rogue warrior (as seen in the table below). However, the Thief Guild Member is capturable from the Thieves' Guild relatively easily, and is far superior to the Rogue warrior- to the point that if you get one quickly enough it will likely level up to be much stronger than a Master Thief by the time that you can purchase one. Later on, with high fame, rogue warriors will spawn at very high levels (and stats) and dominating/capturing one of them will net you a very capable shopkeeper. Also keep in mind that your shopkeeper will benefit from any equipment that boosts their Charisma and Negotiation.

With Gene Engineering, you can merge a mutant into the shopkeeper as a source of extra body slots; as the speed reduction doesn't matter for the shopkeeper. While it may take a lot more time to get good enough to be useful, rather than just continuously capturing higher and higher leveled rogue warriors, taking a low-level mutant to Doctor Gavela and getting it the full 15 slots that Gavela can add before it grows any extra limbs will result in a mutant that will eventually reach 27 (random) slots, allowing you to heavily buff its negotiation and charisma with appropriate gear.

Name Monster Lv Player Lv required to buy Negotiation Charisma
Robber 5 1 9 18
Juere infantry 7 4 5 22
Rock thrower 9 8 14 16
Rogue warrior 10 10 15 27
Juere swordman 15 20 21 37
Master thief 35 60 40 70
Younger cat sister 1 n/a 4 25
Prisoner 3 n/a 5 8
Prostitute 8 n/a 8 12
Rogue 8 n/a 8 12
Black cat 8 n/a 13 12
Thief Guild Member 26 n/a 30 54
Thief 2  ?? 2 13

Elona+Edit

None of the Elona+ monsters listed here can be bought from the slave trader.

Name Monster Lv Negotiation Charisma
Demon 60 43 92
Vopal bunny 65 48 109
Diabolic clown 70 49 93
Bounty hunter 70 77 132
Camouflaged imp 72 51 108
Thief guild member 72 80 136
Ninja 75 53 80
Red Ninja 97 67 101
Demon's Lord 100 69 147
Spaghetti monster 129 88 235
Demon's ruler 150 102 217
Nemain 152 102 173
Mra 174 117 250

Some notes:

  • The bounty hunters can't be dominated or caught with a monster ball, but must be recruited with an Astral Light Pen.
  • The spaghetti monster comes with four ring slots and four hand slots, making it a good choice if you have lots of negotiation boosting rings/weapons/shields.
  • The salesperson will train their Negotiation skill for every sale made, so if you can keep up their potential in that skill you might never need to replace it with a higher level monster with a higher starting skill.

Earning MoneyEdit

There are two ways to earn money from shops.

The first way is to sell items at the shop. Drop items inside the shop and your salesperson will try to sell them to visitors. Most anything in the shop may be sold, including rotten food, skin, bone, eyes, cards, figurines and junk items. Stacks of items take up only one sales slot. You will get varying amounts for the sold items, depending on the salesperson's sales abilities. As the salesperson sells items, the shop's ranking will increase.

The second way is to gain ranks. (Which are gained from customers served, not furniture, the way a home is.) Each shop rank increases the base income of the shop by 10 gp per salary period per rank. Even at maximum rank, you will still only gain 2,000 gp per month, and will have to pay out 5,000 per month just in maintenance fees, so you definitely have to rely upon the items. Higher shop ranks do however, increase the number of customers who may purchase from your store, and at least cutting down on maintenance fees will certainly help.

This does ultimately mean, however, that shops are only truly worth it if you can afford to always leave a dedicated shopkeeper character and can keep the shop stocked on goods to sell. Since you'll want to visit the shop frequently to dump more goods into it, and the location of the shop doesn't really matter, consider building it right next to your home or the Mansion of the younger sister (if you might move your home) so that you can always use scrolls or spells of return to get there right after clearing a dungeon and dump your excess junk.

Stolen items, red textbooks, furniture, small medals, platinum coins, music tickets, unique artifacts and special items cannot be sold in your shop, however they still take up space.

Expanding ShopsEdit

Your original shop can hold a maximum of 10 items. You can expand your shop by paying extra money: the first expansion costs 2,000 gp, and each additional expansion costs (next-item-limit x 100) gp. Each expansion increases the item limit by 10, up to a maximum of 400 (i.e. your last expansion will cost 40,000gp).

MiscellaneousEdit

Flavor TextEdit

Shop visitors will randomly say the following:
"My wallet is empty"
"I want this! I want this!"
"Oh what's this?"
"I'm just watching"
"So this is the famous...."

Shop rankEdit

Rank Title
100-80 Unknown shop
79-70 Souvenir shop
69-60 Small shop
59-45 Average shop
44-30 Popular shop
29-15 Prosperous shop
14-11 Celebrity shop
10-6 Prosperous mall
5-2 Royal mall
1 Tyris' greatest mall

Start a Discussion Discussions about Shop (Deed Building)

  • Does adding extra limbs/slots to shopkeeper slow down sales?

    2 messages
    • Playing Elona+ 1.34, I've added a few extra slots to my shopkeeper, so that he can wear more equipment. I figured that the speed pena...
    • You're imagining things, surely. Even with high shop rank and charisma/negotiation, there are times when my shopkeeper cannot sell anything.

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